[quote=@Willy Vereb] [@Dinh AaronMk]You do raise some good points yet also miss quite a few. First off, no matter if they drop thousands or even a hundred thousand nukes across the world, infrastructure will not cease altogether. Simply put we don't ever had enough boom for that. Nowadays almost even the smallest settlement in the first world has almost complete infrastructure. At worst the series of electromagnetic pulses make less shielded consumer electronics on the surface useless which kinda sucks but doesn't even slightly effect more protected pieces away from the direct blast zone or especially whatever people save up in bunkers. The world may shrink, key people may be missing but overall the idea of millions of modern or in this case futuristic humans would spend their time plowing the ground with no mechanization in sight is pretty much impossible. Especially not with the existence of Vaults where supposedly the said key personnel were sent to both retain the knowledge and work out a way to restore civilization once they or their descendants return to the surface. And again, you seriously underestimate the craftines of a humans during dire times. No, they won't just stand there with open mouths and occasionally complain how it sucks they don't have any tractors. Lastly, you use Fallout as comparison. As in the sci-fi series with pocket-sized fusion reactors, power armors, laser guns ad infinitum, robotic servants and all that jazz. These and even more "super" elements are all part of the setting. If you want a game about everyone struggling to survive then sorry because you've just visited the wrong game. Try those near-future post zombie apocalypse NRPs which occasionally pop up. In this RP we are openly endorsed to have sci-fi elements coupled with the shizoish anarchic atmosphere of the wastelands. Whether you like it or not this is a fact. [/quote] You're also under-estimating the logistics which would make any notions of producing the same tier of technology as would have been enjoyed pre-war impossible. It's like you didn't read. Let me refresh you: [quote]There's a difference between knowing and having the means to make shit. When the production chain and facilities to make a Toyota are gone, then no amount of a mechanical engineering degree can save that. And when you have two (possibly three) generations living in a disconnected world reading text books and manuals on how to build a Toyota Camry they're not going to know how to deal with the Fordoyta Frankensteins that are rolling about. Neither are they going to be able to handle everything else. And in a world where we have nations to the size they are now it'd be appropriate to admit that not everyone went into a shelter. So there's a super-minority of academic individuals in a world that rebuilt itself to survival after the modern nation-state. And in a world where all nations disappeared as they did then the amount of nuclear war had to be beyond absolute. Life can survive that: but political institutions as we know them and everything else would not. They'd be a concept on paper but there'd be no way for any of that to actually be put to work beyond a constant recycling or pre-existing parts until they themselves died. The main issue isn't know-how, it's the supply chain. And without the logistics network behind the know-how all that knowledge is useless. Generations after stepping out of the vault many might decide to forget their previous knowledge in favor of the more directly relevant skills on how to swap out a AK-74's firing mechanism onto the stock of a FAMAS. Or how to grow food again.[/quote]