[quote=@Mortarion]
[@Vandy] Well, yeah but he is still a 
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Skywalker since he is the son of Leia
[/hider] and yeah, I agree that was a bit of the idea behind Kylo Ren, to make him kinda like the imperfect Vader as you said
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I'm really excited to see Snoke complete his training in the next one (if they show it.)