"I was born there." Kili nodded. "We lived there, till the dragon came and we had to flee." "This is not something we can treat lightly." Gandalf was trying to explain to Saruman who sat across the table from him. "Trolls have come down from the mountains, Orcs have attacked us on the road!" "Hardly a prelude to war." Elrond raised his eyebrows sceptically.