[quote=@Dinh AaronMk] Nine million is considerably high, it's not much lower than the base population of Oregon and Washington combined together. Claiming it to be so high crudely brushes away the stresses that'd be caused from nuclear war. Food supplies would dry up fast and the former medical infrastructure would go the same way. You'd have suffered severe shortages resulting in hunger or even medication or vaccinations to fight otherwise curable diseases. Post war too, fuel supplies would have been dried up even faster so even cars and farm tractors would stop working. That too doesn't stress the long-term issues that would complicate running even a simple farm-tractor. They and cars might have a reputation as coming off as being very simple machines, but they are really rather complicated. [/quote] I hate to argue but I will at least defend myself somewhat. On the issue of population you also must take into account my regional span. I see some other players with considerably less land with almost equal population count. I won't be stating names but for regions on the east coast with considerably more urban and industrial targets you would think they suffered significantly more than those on the West Coast, with only places like Seattle and Portland being significant targets. Regardless I'll bump it down to perhaps 7 million for fairness sake. Yes, Tractors are very complex equipment. However you must take into account the fact that there is a 50 year span from the point the war began to now. So you would have to assume that all human knowledge after the war simply ceased to exist for your argument to fully work. Plus some of the most technological companies in the world have headquarters and offices in Oregon, Northern Cali, and Washington. So I'm almost positive that at least one barn still stands in the entirety of the Northwest with a operational tractor and that it could be taken apart and modeled into a crude replica over the course of 50 years. Now on the issue of Fuel I'll agree with you overall. While IRL there are a lot of different military documents about fuel consumption in the case of disasters, I can't back up anything from a Pacific Northwest sense. If we were discussing say the U.K I'd have a more backed argument. So I'll concede on that issue and simply say that agriculture is predominantly through horse-drawn plows.