I never said anywhere I wanted C listers. And with a power set like 'toon force' or whatever it's being called..  [@Archmage MC] you realize every comparable DC or Marvel character [Mr. Myxlplyx, Slaspstick, Bat-Mite, and Impossible Man] is in fact a C lister and only one of them has been in anything for more than a couple issues at a time [looking at Slapstick being featured in Deadpool's Mercs for Money title, and there's no question why it works there because it's a Deadpool title]. 

I was merely using Ironman as an example of how somebody can take a power set and go OP with it. [@Marik] hit the nail on the head. Batman is a simple enough character, but if you include every suit variation and every gadget he's used in 70+ years its ridiculous. When comparing it to a demi-god I look at somebody like Thor or Ares. Thor has the hammer, controls the weather, and has heightened physical attributes. Didn't take 24 bullet points, and it doesn't dip into a ton of power sets. For the record if somebody applies for the Advanced Techno archetype and has tech that mimics a dozen powers and has several sub powers based on them it WOULD NOT be accepted any sooner than somebody with Impossible Man levels of power. Over powered is over powered. 

When I think of OP'ed characters there's a few examples that come to mind that nobody should try applying with. Sticking with just Marvel examples it'd be folks like Galactus, Silver Surfer, Thanos, and Impossible Man. Nobody's gonna dispute Galactus, it's obvious he's too powerful... even though a lot of his powers are undefined. Surfer being his herald and literally tapping into limitless amounts of the power cosmic gives him the super long list of powers that dip into several power sets... again I don't think anybody would dispute that. Thanos is the same with heightened physical stats and untold amounts of power, moreso if he's got any Infinity Gems lying around. With Impossible Man he can literally do the impossible, warp time and space in ANY way, create ANYTHING out of thin air, break the laws of physics, and nothing can really touch him power wise except one of the others I mentioned. If it puts things into perspective, Thor is a god and even HE is less powerful than the folks on my short list. Doesn't make Thor C list but giving somebody two dozen powers doesn't exactly make them A list either. 

Now... I'm tired of the argument. I've made my point pretty clear why it isn't acceptable and it takes up way too much time on here when I've got other Character Sheets to go over [which I'll be doing after this post]. Do me a favor and instead of coming on here with attitude and putting words in a guy's mouth like 'he only wants C listers' and 'You can't have any powerset that can make you versatile or allow you to go outside of some pre-defined notions of mine...' think about some of the classics who are less powerful than your character. Spiderman is versatile. So is Ironman. And so is Thor. EVERY single one of them look like jokes power-wise in comparison to somebody with powers like Toon Girl's. You insist the character has weaknesses and isn't too powerful but if bombs only turn the character black or ashy, the character can not only survive being cut into pieces but control them as well, etc... I just don't see it. She's basically a Toon God and [i]more powerful than actual gods[/i] and isn't something I feel the game could benefit from. The one game I did accept a version of this character it turned into a mess, I'm not doing it again. Sorry.

~KL~