[quote=@Natsucooldude] [@Sleeth]I would like to add my own thoughts. While I appreciate your punishment for people trying to derail thingd, I feel like the exact nature could be handled differently. For example, you could have had bruce disarm and wound kaben's character. The ghoul is obviously twitchy and all it would take is perhaps a somewhat fudged attack roll against the gun arm. Just my two caps [/quote] While this is a good point, I understand where [@Sleeth] is going with that style of character. For a non-com npc like bruce, even dodging wouldn't bee very viable. (hell, there's a rule in rifts (tabletop rpg) called "-10 to dodge" specifically for guns and lasers XD) In a side note, I believe that Grognak and Stark are still completely seperate from said company still yes?