[quote=@SleepingSilence] You make it sound like it needs to confess it's sins. XD But I can't say you can't find political leaning in games, movies and music sometimes obnoxious or I'd be a hypocrite. But I can nearly guarantee it didn't make anyone change their political opinion... My argument that naivety is better than malicious intent. Is basically a fact or I don't know many that would disagree...And 2+2=5 and 2+2=100 and one being more right than another is also a literal scientific fact. I admitted that both may lead to problems. Also passion doesn't always equal lunatic. Not quite what I'm going for here... Also, despite most memes in general being cringe. That has some absolute fact to back that up. "In studies involving interviews of felons, one of the reasons the majority of burglars try to avoid occupied homes is the chance of getting shot. (Increasing the odds of arrest is another.) A study of Pennsylvania burglary inmates reported that many burglars refrain from late-night burglaries because it's hard to tell if anyone is home, several explaining "That's the way to get shot." (Rengert G. and Wasilchick J., Suburban Burglary: A Time and a Place for Everything, 1985, Springfield, IL: Charles Thomas.) By comparing criminal victimization surveys from Britain and the Netherlands (countries having low levels of gun ownership) with the U.S., Florida State University criminologist Gary Kleck determined that if the U.S. were to have similar rates of "hot" burglaries as these other nations, there would be more than 450,000 additional burglaries per year where the victim was threatened or assaulted. (Britain and the Netherlands have a "hot" burglary rate near 45% versus just under 13% for the U.S., and in the U.S. a victim is threatened or attacked 30% of the time during a "hot" burglary.)" TLDR: Basically we get robbed less in USA, especially hot burglary (meaning robbed while still home.) Because people fear getting shot. [/quote] EDIT: and your mnaking another blanket assertion you cant say that movies games literature have no effect on someone's political leanings, do you realise how many people became libertarians after reading Atlus Shrugged or George Orwell's 1984? And how many people became anti war after watching platoon or saving private ryan? Powerful forms of media can inform opinions, not everyone's but to say no ones is a little short sighted. Naivety and Malicious intent is not the same as passion and non passion, you realize you can be passionately malicious right? and you can also be passively naive? Don't compound those things, you can't assert that 'many would agree that its a fact' not when you are making leaps of definition like that. I agree that passion doesn't equal lunatic, and non passion also doesn't equal cold calculating lex luthor figure, this furthers my point on how irrelevant it is to a political ideology, 'Passion' is theatrics which contribute to the cult of personality, how much you like or want to side with an individual, but logically it doesn't really matter. And those gun stats are fine, I just said I'm not making a an anti gun argument, this is why I think youre sensitive and lumping me in with some leftist gun banning hippies, I just told you I dont give a shit about the U.S.A.'s gun policy, dont strawman me sir. I said the meme was cringey and thats was my explanation for using the 'gun toting' comment. I dont have to have stance on gun rights to realise that a meme is a cringey attempt to look tough.