[quote=@Jotunn Draugr]
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Not Ireland. The Irish. As in, immigrants from Ireland, TO the Anglo world.
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The Irish emigrated when they were struck by a deadly potato famine, British brutality and systematic persecution in their own country.

Those who emigrated were starving, slaves and homeless when they reached England or America. Sure,  it's a success story now because Americans think it's trendy to be "Irish" but the ships the famine victims left on were called COFFIN SHIPS and very often those who survived the trips suffered when they landed in the UK and US. Of course you won't hear about that because no one wants to talk about the Irish before they were cool because that means admitting they were utterly fucked over in the past.

The English INVADED ireland and [s]stole[/s] outlawed it's language and when the Irish emigrated they were discriminated (there are signs saying "No Black's,  No Irish" and for a long time irish people have been called the "Black's of Europe" Don't get me started on how wrong that is for both black and Irish people).

The only reason it's all rosy now is because the Irish are lovable rogues and no one wants to talk about the harder stuff when instead they can pretend the Irish were welcomed with open arms on Tory island.

The Irish then are like the Syrians in Europe now (though it's not war they fled, it was hunger and oppression). Some were lucky but hundreds of thousands live on the streets or in makeshift camps or worse still, die at sea.

I'm half British but even I can see that Ireland was fucked by outsiders and when they left they were equally fucked.