Well she doesn't need surgery, but she'll be in a sling the first few weeks of her recovery and physical therapy is in her near future. I'm just glad my kid was far away enough on the porch not to fall through himself. If he'd got a broken foot or something my life that's presently at about 75% hell would be closer to 100% LOL After her pain meds kick in tonight and the kid goes to bed I'm gonna check to see if there's any new IC posts and work on something. Pretty sure I included responses to everyone in my last post, so everybody should have something to go on. The less powerful players need to start working our way to that bunker if we're gonna stay behind enemy lines... ~KL~