[quote=@j8cob] [b]You are quite possibly the only person who thinks this.[/b] I just did some fact-checking and I couldn't find a single person who identified themselves as a creationist without identifying themselves as some form of Abrahamic religion. I couldn't. Not even the plebians on tumblr or Twitter or anything, let alone any prominent names or famous people throughout history. To the contrary, I found a good number of Christian websites that very directly state that creationism is an important part of religion with one article outright saying "creation is religion." Just because the majority of Christians don't believe in creationism doesn't mean it isn't a [i]very[/i] religious thing. It is entirely belief based, as religion is. People who believe in creationism had it instilled in them at a young age, as religion usually works too. From that point onward it becomes difficult for anyone who was taught creationism by their parents or parish to ever shake that belief. The way the human psyche works makes people not want to change. People can change, but they inherently don't want to. If they were trained to be super religious as a child, they will remain super religious throughout their adult life outside of rare circumstances. Your assertion that creationism has nothing to do with religion is an ignorant assertion in and of itself, ironically. [/quote] Fact checking....you spoke to every single person in the world who indentifies as a creationist and asked them if they adhered to organised religion or was this more of a first page google search? It gets a little semantical at this point, creationism is commonly seen as the religious branch of creation science which is encompassed by intelligent design which is not nessecarily religious by defination. [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_science]Ben Carson Brand[/url] which overlaps into [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design]This sometimes, its case by case.[/url] I dont nessecarily disagree that it isnt a creationist's fault they were reaised creationist, I'm not saying they should be put in jail, but to believe psuedo science in the face of real science and claim that every real scientist is dumber than Ben Carson or lying is a poor representation of rational/logical thinking and makes him very unfit to run the country. The world is tough, its not the people's fault that your parents never told you santa claus was your uncle in a red suit, and if you are still claiming that its true after being proven its false then you are aggresively ignorant and acting like an [b]idiot[/b]. To summarise, ben carson can believe whatever the hell he wants, but you cant run a country on stupid ideas like pseudoscience.