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[@Dynamo Frokane] I agree, though that doesn't take away that I think both sides are just arguing now and not debating anymore - neither side is listening, and not willing to understand the other parties' side. 

Which is common occurrence on the internet, so I'm not surprised. 

Never the less, yes, it was still somewhat civil. As much as you'd expect from RPG.
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Well I cant speak for the other side, but I'm definately still deabting, I wouldnt be able to get up this big paragraphs if I didnt have something to respond to. 

I will say at this point, while it hasnt turned into a full on flame war, the discussion is getting a little off-topic, as I was trying to talk about objective criticism, and now I'm digging up the entire history and current culture of creationism, which is extremely boring.