[quote=@shylarah] [@Terminal] But it does exclude negative fame overall -- as in, everyone knows you and you are universally disliked because of it. It might /possibly/ exclude villains that are seen as dashing and handsome but still questionable (Loki comes to mind, in the MCU, though he wouldn't fit this theme -- and he also has a positive regard in the fanbase. Or Joker in the Suicide Squad, as most people understand he was completely mistreating Harley and it was a messed up relationship). You want someone seen in a positive light overall, which is not the only way of being famous. If you want an infamous person with a positive reputation, go with Robin Hood. He's the classic hero of the people if not the law. But for the other way, I mean someone like...to go to extremes, let's say Hilter. Famous? Most certainly. Would I say I like him, admire him, want to mimic him? A resounding no. So you want a luminary, a role model, one who is admired and imitated and praised, not merely someone who is well-known, correct? If so, I don't feel that famous adequately covers this meaning. [/quote] Not necessarily a role model or someone who is admired/praised. A person can be famous without being liked - 'well known' would aptly cover what is sought, as long as there is no overbearing negative connotation associated with it. So you are correct - being well-known is in fact sufficient.