[quote=@Vilageidiotx] I think the entire "Winner of the debate" thing is overplayed. The winner will be the person who the scientific polls show to be gaining. We can make all kinds of arguments that one person has won, but if it is the other person making the gains, then what exactly did our person win? Personally, I think Trump's debate performances were bad. I thought this because, before the debates, I thought Trump could out-do Hillary simply because Hillary is a stilted, awkward speaker. But instead of doing his research and making sure he sounded like somebody who could be president, he just sounded whiny and petulant throughout, to the point he made me think I could do a better job then him, and since I can barely whistle without assistance that doesn't give me much hope. The polls reflected this for the first two debates, though the third hasn't quite had time to process yet. [/quote] Have you been watching the debates [@Weird Tales], what do you think?