[quote=@ClocktowerEchos] In addition, Dark Souls does everything Witcher does with a much less of an obnoxious fanbase for me. Witcher is known as a hard game, Dark Souls is known as the game basically set up to kill you at every turn and you will die (coming from the person who literally managed to die within the first 30 seconds of DS2 by falling off a cliff), plus Fromsoft internally trolls the fuck out of its players like by not actually giving you a tutorial in cutscenes but in gravestones that you can destroy and render unusable. Also, until the day that Witcher has a contest that pays people money for trying to explain the lore, its tag of being a comprensive lore can go and fuck itself since its null and void. [/quote] While I dislike people who are like "The Witcher 3 is the best shit ever changed my life true RPG" which is all over the place, I dunno if I would call the Souls fanbase less obnoxious. Never have I seen a fanbase that forgets where they came from so hard. Just go to any stream or video where someone's playing for the first time and people will be backseat gaming in the worst way, complaining that the streamer didn't do this, spamming 'git gud' and generally being unable to realize that first time players aren't expected to know how to get this obscure piece of equipment or the best route to get through things in as min/max a way as possible. There's a clear divide between Souls players that gives them this really shitty aura of people acting like they came into Demon's or Dark or whichever the fuck as golden gods who did everything flawlessly. There's offering helpful tips. And then there's "Do it this way or you're doing it wrong" and the Souls fandom leans more to the latter than they really should. The reputation of Dark Souls precedes it and people that advertise it as "Oh man it's fuckin brutal" are missing the god damn point of the game anyway. The Witcher 3 is a better game than any given Souls game but the two really shouldn't be compared. It's easy to compare Witcher and Skyrim because those are games in the same genre and that's all people need sometimes. Skyrim is an easy target, especially for rabid Witcher 3 fans, because Skyrim is a deeply flawed game with a lot of problems in its overall design and Witcher 3's problems are less immediately obvious (but are no less there). Honestly half the reason the Witcher 3 fanbase is so annoying is because a good chunk of them are those unironic PCMR types who suck the dick of CDProjektRed but will still pirate their games. It's six in one hand, half a dozen in the other. I'd sooner park my car in the Souls lot but then the Souls series has had two good games whereas Witcher has just had one and I am a whore for numbers.