[quote=@pugbutter] The quality of the site seems more dependent on the people inhabiting it than the site itself tbh, even if I agree that having a functional PM system would be nice.[/quote] I think it's more the VM system that needs to be fixed, rather than the PM system. I haven't had an issue using the PM system yet, but I know people are wanting a way to delete PMs and that isn't - to the best of my knowledge - available yet. I know the VM system isn't too important, but it's really crippled and unreliable right now, and my user bio actually looks very screwed up thanks to how it didn't implement my messages correctly -- there's no way to delete those messages either. That said, obviously a site can only be as good as its members. Just a final comment I wanted to make before I got back to things.