[quote=natsumehack] welcome to spam. [/quote]Nat D: Don't you remember me? :c [quote=Dervish] Glad you're okay. But it's not the Jeep's fault; black ice will make most anything spin out. Proper tires matter more than brand of car. [/quote] Haha thanks. Also, I know that in the back of my head. It also doesn't help that it wasn't AWD it was rear. So it was already doomed in the weather. Much like many other cars. Granted, I definitely need something a bit more dependable in the snow since I go to school 20-25 minutes from the mountains.