[quote=@Wernher] I hate magitech so damn much. I say sure to the odd heroes with vorpal swords and +5 armor, but I swear to god if I see an army of dudes with full-auto wands of destruction and armors of negate kinetic damage I will kill myself. I don't mean to say resisting would be impossible, but rather difficult and laughable if a nation decided to really flex its muscles and consider this a real, industrial scale, war. [/quote] I have to disagree here-not with your specific examples per say(full auto wands and armors of negating kinetics and whatnot sound dumb, at least until a cultural exchange occurs and people start experimenting with our our science interacts with their magic), but at the core all that quote-unquote "magitech" would really be is applying the scientific method to magic. Learning to harness it and utilize it in ways to the benefit of their society as a whole, although with magic as a force the need to technologically advance in a more traditional sense would be much lower(hence their status as medeival technologically, since they wouldn't need to scientifically advance nearly so much in order to improve their standard of life; they don't have microbial theory, but they don't [i]need[/i] to in order to know 'Cure Disease' spells make sick people better, ect). I also disagree with the notion that a Magical nation couldn't compete realistically with a technological one. They might not have anywhere nearly so sophisticated mundane weapons, but in our terms any individual mage would have the potential to be equivalent to if not greater than our own primary weapons of war(tanks, artillery, ect) and weapons of mass destruction in and of themselves at the absolute most powerful. Not even mentioning the fact that with magic you could pump out armies on a industrial scale as well(golems, undead, ect), as well as (again, all things being potentially and dependent on how powerful magic is considered) ludicrously easy logistics if Mages can either teleport or just conjure food and resources. We know that instantaneous or at least near instantaneous travel is possible because Portals, so it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that Magi know how to use magic to transport supplies or armies quickly-an advantage we wouldn't have almost at all.