[quote=@Andreyich] But that's the whole thing about them; order, control and building an Empire, for which they would need these rules. I mean, how do you think ultramar has so many successful and good worlds to live in? >inb4 muh matt ward [/quote] I actually wasn't going to mention Ward, because I acknowledge the chapter has it's strengths regardless of Wardian bullshit. I'm not saying they suck or anything, they're incredibly effective, they look cool, and if I had to live on an Imperial planet I'd definitely pick one of the many under their protection. That said, they just aren't as fun for me as many of the other chapters. They, for me, are boring in comparison to their brothers. I'm not insulting Rowboat Girlieman or his sons, relax. Just saying, they're not for me.