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But your original statement is faulty though, especially saying that they are one of the least developed. If that were true they would not get both a vidya and a movie.


I won't disagree that he's a poor writer especially in comparison to the better ones GW has written but recently all the Ultramarine fluff has been relatively good, and even then the old stuff has been re-purposed to not only more or less make sense but to actually be interesting i.e. Orar's Sepulchre. 
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They get a movie etc because they were/are the poster-boys of 40k, which is exactly the reason why Ward went mental and made them into OP Marines in the first place. I've no real problem with the Ultras as a faction within 40k, and must say that the books by McNeil are excellent, but Ward is inexcusable.

Here's hoping that they can retcon and fix the damage he has done, I like Greco-Roman Astartes. :)