[quote=@vancexentan] Well isn't Rider also there so it would be technically 4 on one? Assuming you know that the others don't bail immediately and kite him using you? Also counting on Loki to give you permission is a bit out there unless she replies to the OOC sometime soon. [/quote] Well if Rider goes, then yes it would be a 4 v 1 and the possible defeat of the Servant if we plan to go 0 --> 100 first step into the battle without playing around. However, that may be me arrogantly talks so don't mind me... On the note of the two bailing out, it be a shame if they abandoned their raid leader who is giving them their best chance at defeating this servant but hopefully they wont.