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Okay, so, take into account that Vader is ludicrously powerful. The dude picked up a Star Destroyer with the Force. That's at least 1000 tons of telekinesis right there. He also crushed an AT-AT once. As such, given a moment to focus, there is very little that he cannot straight-up kill.


Is this post-TFA canon or Legends though?
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A lot of what I hear about Legends Vader seems to be dumb, "wow, look at how awesome he is" moments that make the movies seem like they don't work. Not saying anything bad about how Lmpkio's playing him, since so far his Vader's hasn't been the boring "I can instantly win everything forever" mess that I've heard about.
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... I'm going to have to say even when I read the old EU I never saw anything like that and um...

... I'm glad I didn't because it sounds kind of ludicrous?

I mean, Vader should be scary. Competent villain with a lot of power and all but that is absolutely absurd. Especially if you legitimately think he could beat nearly everyone in the RP since... ^^;

I think that's majorly underestimating people's characters and in general a bad claim to make. I don't think anyone should be saying "no-one can beat my character" at all honestly, even if there's probably some people who would have a serious struggle with some characters and others who would not.
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OK, seriously, @Masterkeun, stop with the passive-aggressive fake post deletions. It's not cool, it's not funny, it's just annoying and honestly it just makes you look kind of childish.
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@MasterkeunStop that. :\ It just makes you look childish.
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Okay, so, take into account that Vader is ludicrously powerful. The dude picked up a Star Destroyer with the Force. That's at least 1000 tons of telekinesis right there. He also crushed an AT-AT once. As such, given a moment to focus, there is very little that he cannot straight-up kill.

Honestly, the only real hope anyone except maybe Magnus has of beating this guy is keeping him off-balance. If Set manages to land a blow to the more important parts of his suit Vader might be forced to retreat. But if he gets even a moment of not constantly defending against everything, he could apply his full power, which would practically instantly annihilate any of the combatants.

So yeah, even 3v1 with surprise and prep, best hope we have is making him withdraw. Actually defeating Vader would require far greater numbers, or far more powerful characters.


If we went with all the EU stuff, though, we have the minor issue of "welp, the movies don't make any sense" and "shouldn't we have lost already?"

Though I think you're underestimating some of the characters... XD

That reminds me, Chris and Hibiki really need to find something to do. Hm.
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Again, I'll repeat that no-one should be stating their characters could beat nearly anyone else, or stating someone else's could.

It's fair to say "this matchup would favor this person" but... yeah. ^^;
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Sorry should we instead go through a 10 post process of me posting an opnion and having everyone complain about me being rude for doing the same thing your doing right now. Or does comment removed for rudeness work
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You could try not being so passive-aggressive and throwing around baseless accusations. Suddenly you won't be seen as rude and passive-aggressive.
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<Snipped quote by thewizardguy>

If we went with all the EU stuff, though, we have the minor issue of "welp, the movies don't make any sense" and "shouldn't we have lost already?"

Though I think you're underestimating some of the characters... XD

That reminds me, Chris and Hibiki really need to find something to do. Hm.


Do I need to finish sheeting our resident Sentinel's Sword so we can break out the RADIANT FORCE?
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@Rin also childish is also liking rude comments towards me right after there made
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I'll point out you were posting laugh reactions to posts that disagreed with you, dude.
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@MasterkeunI am agreeing with comments regarding how you need to change your attitude. The reason why people are losing patience with you is because you are, quite frankly, rather rude and end up directing your comments towards other people rather than any events in the RP itself. Whilst I'll admit some of the discussion has gotten a little heated at times, it's generally remained polite and refrained from personal attacks, unlike your pointed posts aimed at specific people.

Quite frankly, it's sapping a lot of people's enthusiasm in the RP (and before you say anything, I've asked around), and you really need to knock it off already.
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No there not, but hey that's fine I'm done with the occ. Sorry for spoiling the mood for you I'll be going the gm route now for complaints about my character's to avoid confrontation in the oc
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As a big fan of Legends (surprise, right?) I am aware of many parts of it that others are not. But in Legends the general level of power of the Sith and Jedi alike is increased significantly. Like how there are 2 Sith that obtained the power to wipe out entire planets with the Force, and one who even made a star go Supernova. Existing characters like Luke and Sidious also receive immense power boosts, allowing them to compete with the Legends homebrews, and causing the movies to keep making sense.

Some characters are clearly stronger than others. Just a bit before Magnus was facing off against I believe 5 other characters? Any one of those characters would have lost to Magnus in a 1v1 because of the power difference. If one were to pit Set Harth against, say, Gilgamesh, Set would last a glorious 15 seconds (the length of Gilgamesh's smug monologue). Vader is one of the most powerful characters in the RP, and represents an immense threat.

That said, those feats of power require him to stand still and concentrate. As long as he's engaged in melee or dodging bullets he can't use that kind of power. Characters like Youmu have a chance of outspeeding him, and inflicting serious damage while barraging him with attacks. While Set can level the power gap through trickery, sorcery, and by finding friends. Weaker characters can topple stronger characters by playing to their strengths, or by banding together. And the stronger characters must be careful not to be too powerful, lest too many people decide to gang up on them.

In short: power differences exist, but they're not bad.

Vader is a seriously bad mofo, and should be dealt with as if he were a 'boss monster'. Lots of people working together, or confronted by another exceptionally powerful character. He could be defeated here because Set knows what he's weak to, and isn't going to let him use most of his fancy force tricks. Combined with the constant assault of the other two, I see Vader only winning barely, or more likely just getting forced back/defeated.
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Wiz does a good explanation imo.
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@Lost Cause@Psyga315

I feel the need to say that I am not a huge fan of one-liner posts. I feel like it detracts from the rp by basically becoming spam. I feel like it belongs in the free roleplay section and not here. Anyone else feel the same? Could you guys boost the quality a bit or perhaps do your back and forth dialogue in pm's first and post it as a collab?
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Wiz does a good explanation imo.


Did end up with the "as it turns out, there's no opportunity for that stuff right now" conclusion. So, basically a draw for one reason or another.

And still need to point the magical girls in... some direction. Because chasing the crazy cultists would be bad for the cultists.

@Lost Cause@Psyga315

I feel the need to say that I am not a huge fan of one-liner posts. I feel like it detracts from the rp by basically becoming spam. I feel like it belongs in the free roleplay section and not here. Anyone else feel the same? Could you guys boost the quality a bit or perhaps do your back and forth dialogue in pm's first and post it as a collab?


Eh, I object to the idea of labelling all one-line posts as bad, but this is definitely overdone. Though on the whole, constantly having long posts in the middle of a conversation can lead to... far too much navel-gazing or pointless actions. Basically turning half the post into the equivalent of Oblivion's NPC's constantly going on about mudcrabs.
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I feel the need to say that I am not a huge fan of one-liner posts. I feel like it detracts from the rp by basically becoming spam. I feel like it belongs in the free roleplay section and not here. Anyone else feel the same? Could you guys boost the quality a bit or perhaps do your back and forth dialogue in pm's first and post it as a collab?


If you like, I can try to get a Titanpad or Doc goin'.
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