[colour=MediumBlue][b][i]"It's Saren, so yes, you were a long way off. And-"[/i][/b][/colour] Saren had a serious problem with this guy now. However, before he got any further, he stopped himself. He may have to trust Ravin with his life soon enough. He needed to be able to. [colour=MediumBlue][b][i]"and you're right. We're not going to get far like this. If we are going to work together, this should end now. Agreed?"[/i][/b][/colour] In response to Ally's question, Saren responded [colour=MediumBlue][b][i]"It's not just me: many turians dislike humans, whether it's excusable or not. It's a long story. First you've got the polar opposite societies: In turian society, you are expected to be utterly altruistic. A turian who sacrifices himself to save dozens of others will not be remembered any more than any others, because that's the decision every turian would make. Failing to make that kind of decision isn't a sin, it's an aberration. Doing so isn't a bad thing because it isn't a thing at all, in a turian's mind. Humans are the opposite. So many of them (no offense) are greedy and self-centred. They'd rather do a small thing for themself than a great thing for everyone else. That's what many turians have a problem with. First contact relations went poorly as well. When humanity first gained faster-than-light travel, dozens of other societies had already reached that point. Turians found a human ship about to commit a crime against the Council, the united civilisation of countless intergalactic species, by flying into illegal space. Since the turians have always possessed the greatest military might, they are the main policing force in Council borders. As such, they opened fire on the ship, destroying it and starting a small scale war, in which the rest of the Council intervened before it reached full scale. There were less than a thousand casaulties on each side, but three months of war is never a good start. And it was a war that cost me my brother. The turian point of view is that the humans reacted poorly and they were just doing their job. But even after the war, humanity displayed foolish arrogance and agression. After peace was established, humans began rapidly colonising empty planets. Some Council species have had FTL for thousands of years, yet in a few decades humanity controlled more planets than any other known species in the galaxy. Many of these colonised planets were being wasted - maybe only one or two tiny settlements yet legally the entire planet was theirs. Of the Council species, only three had a government representative, a Councillor: the asari, the salarians, and the turians. There were some races who'd been attempting to gain a Councillor for centuries, yet humanity had the audacity to request one after 26 years, without making any significant contributions to the rest of the Council species and using up a huge amount of resources. I hope you see now that I am not a petty bigot. I hope you exceed the expectations I placed on the rest of your race.[/i][/b][/colour] Later, when Charlotte asked Saren if he was a monster, he said [colour=MediumBlue][b][i]"It depends on what you call a monster. I am definitely something very different to you, and I have done bad things in my life. I want to do good, though, and that's what I meant to do even at my worst. So I suppose we [b]are[/b] a bunch of heroes, yeah."[/i][/b][/colour]