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Hidden 7 yrs ago Post by HeySeuss
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I'm not talking about one liner posts. I'm telling people in the RP's that "hey, three paragraphs is the yardstick. Call it three minutes of action." Someone posting one-liners isn't happening there.
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No, I understood that. I was more talking to the people who make it sound like a long post is simply a lot of purple prose or internal monologuing and while long posts can be like that, they usually aren't. When it comes to group RPs I expect posts to be a bit shorter than my 1x1's. 3 paragraphs sounds pretty reasonable. In the case of group RPs in the Advanced section I feel like a lot of that "Advanced-ness" comes from how in-depth the world lore is, the complexity of plot, and the ability of the GM to keep up with that shit and encourage players to build their own characters and even do side-rps amongst themselves.
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No, I understood that. I was more talking to the people who make it sound like a long post is simply a lot of purple prose or internal monologuing and while long posts can be like that, they usually aren't. When it comes to group RPs I expect posts to be a bit shorter than my 1x1's. 3 paragraphs sounds pretty reasonable. In the case of group RPs in the Advanced section I feel like a lot of that "Advanced-ness" comes from how in-depth the world lore is, the complexity of plot, and the ability of the GM to keep up with that shit and encourage players to build their own characters and even do side-rps amongst themselves.


Sometimes the world-building eats advanced RP's up. Also, once you do all that setting development, you have to scale back down and write your RP. The whole conversation has me wondering if I ought to come up with a 'paragraph = minute' measure that I wouldn't enforce strictly, but would use as a general guideline to create pace to the narrative. There was a time when no post was too long, but I'm more concerned with how to coordinate multiple characters, actions and conversations within a post while not making it an onerous honker to write.

I'll play with it. That's the nice thing about the Guild, you can do that.
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One thing I'm noticing when people make assholes is that they tack something like "has a sensitive side" or "Is really a nice guy" at the end of their personality section. But, never showing it in their IC-posts.

I'm guilty of this myself, but there are other, more organic, ways of showing your character isn't a total cunt, or just writing down their dickish aspects like they really want to so people will like their character.
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Regarding post length, I'd say I'm flexible with it as long as it's not a one-liner without any proper context for the next person respond to. (Not everyone is Hemingway, yeah.)


Ironically, Hemingway had a very sparse style of prose. He is honestly one of the reasons I try to chop it down to the essentials. I am always trying to fix run-on sentences and other embellishments. It's a never-ending thing.

If I'm really editing, I will break down paragraphs and read sentences one at a time for editing. Then I will put the paragraph back together. I don't do it as often here (but should), because I can go back and edit a day after I make the original post. Professionally, when writing e-mails, I do that because I'm trying to keep them as short as possible. People get too many e-mails and have a very 'tl;dr' mentality as a result. Typically, five lines is the golden mean.

I actually use the Hemingway App as a guideline to edit and keep it simple.
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Trying to find a good RP site but also being way too shy and socially awkward to just start using old accounts more.

it's been like 7 months ive just been too embarassed to come back because im that asshole who keeps abandoning rps because i get stressed
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Ironically, Hemingway had a very sparse style of prose. He is honestly one of the reasons I try to chop it down to the essentials. I am always trying to fix run-on sentences and other embellishments. It's a never-ending thing.


I look up to Hemingway when it comes to minimalism without losing quality also. That's what I call writing with class. :P

Professionally, when writing e-mails, I do that because I'm trying to keep them as short as possible. People get too many e-mails and have a very 'tl;dr' mentality as a result. Typically, five lines is the golden mean.


Yeah, especially with how people are being fed with info overload 24/7, there's barely anyone who would spend too much time reading pages of thesis-like writing when that can be summarized in a few well-chosen words. Like, I have school, so I can't possibly neglect my studies to read long-winded writings - that's unproductive to my learning.

(I'm still having some trouble to keep my rambles short, but peeps who have talked to me know I've been trying my best.)
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One thing I'm noticing when people make assholes is that they tack something like "has a sensitive side" or "Is really a nice guy" at the end of their personality section. But, never showing it in their IC-posts.

I'm guilty of this myself, but there are other, more organic, ways of showing your character isn't a total cunt, or just writing down their dickish aspects like they really want to so people will like their character.


"Jerk with a heart of gold" is a coward's trope. It's for the people who want to RP as "badass" douchebags, but who don't want to suffer the IC consequences of pissing off the other players. Because if you hate their characters when they reveal how kindhearted they are through some selfless deed or other, that makes you look like the asshole. And they're relying on that fact.

B-BUT I'M SUCH A GOOD GUY DEEP DOWN, YOU CAN'T HATE ME :'3

Like hell I can't, you fucking pussy poseur.
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I'm cross with personality sections, in part because of things like that. It sticks you with a very set boundary for a character you've yet to use or flesh out. I don't think Tolkien took to a diary and wrote out a couple paragraphs detailing how his major characters would react to specific scenarios. I don't even see why other people need to be told, word for word, how my character is supposed to behave. Observe their actions through the IC and make your own conclusions.
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The Hemingway App is hilariously terrible, though.
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I'm a sucker for flowery, overly descriptive writing as well, so Hemingway cramps my style something fierce.
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The Hemingway App is hilariously terrible, though.


Guideline. I still read what I write. It's not meant to replace judgment. :)

I'm cross with personality sections, in part because of things like that. It sticks you with a very set boundary for a character you've yet to use or flesh out. I don't think Tolkien took to a diary and wrote out a couple paragraphs detailing how his major characters would react to specific scenarios. I don't even see why other people need to be told, word for word, how my character is supposed to behave. Observe their actions through the IC and make your own conclusions.


I put it in there to make the player think about it, not because I actually look hard at it.
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@Asura When I ask people to fill out the personality section of a character sheet, I try to make it more about their interests and desires then how they behave in a situation. I think it's one of the more misunderstood aspects of the character sheet, so much so that even some GMs don't know why they're asking for this information.
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@Asura When I ask people to fill out the personality section of a character sheet, I try to make it more about their interests and desires then how they behave in a situation. I think it's one of the more misunderstood aspects of the character sheet, so much so that even some GMs don't know why they're asking for this information.

Oh, I know why I ask for it. Typically this is needed more often in the casual section than the advanced section, but I ask for it as a section because I want to have confidence that a potential writer knows how to create a consistent and sensible personality. It isn’t me asking for a player to write out all of the character’s ticks, desires, aspirations, reactions, and quirks but rather the ability to write a basic summary that doesn’t contradict itself. I understand people are nuanced, but much like backstory or sample posts it’s just another way to be confident in the application and see if their abilities fit with what you’re looking for.
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Meh, that's why I always like to include a short description of each field and a filled out sheet to illustrate what i'm looking for.
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Personality sections on character forms are always a bit weird to me. Like, I totally understand why people have them/use them/what have you, but theyre just... kind of a pain in the ass? I consider my OCs living in a sense, and it's always hard to describe their personality in words. That's why personality sections where you just list a couple of traits always felt like less pressure to me.
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Personality sections on character forms are always a bit weird to me. Like, I totally understand why people have them/use them/what have you, but theyre just... kind of a pain in the ass? I consider my OCs living in a sense, and it's always hard to describe their personality in words. That's why personality sections where you just list a couple of traits always felt like less pressure to me.


I prefer to go with 'psychological profile.'
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I prefer to go with 'psychological profile.'


That's usually pretty good too. Tells you enough about the character but doesn't constrict you that much.
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I prefer to go with 'psychological profile.'


Or motivations as it's not so much about how they act and what they wish to accomplish in their time.
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That's usually pretty good too. Tells you enough about the character but doesn't constrict you that much.


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