^,..,^ Its very rare in any fantasy setting for there to be friendly-ish goblins. [@Cyclone], mayhaps you can work towards converting them and having a more numerous workforce. Also, Chen, my man, you wrote in the post the discovery of gold and copper, but wrote in the gray brackets that it was copper and iron. XD Also, I may in the future, if I play me cards right, try pulling those ursa into the dwarven fold. But first, diplomacy! And mining, we dwarves need our mining. EDIT: ~And I read Cyclone's post... Poor little skraelings.