[quote=@Andreyich] [@JaceBeleren] *clears throat with just a little too much hacking* first off, dark souls has proportions just a bit wrong with them being just a bit too thick and long but that's not too much of a problem. One thing considered in any type of sparring be it fencing or unarmed is reach. A zweihander not only has considerable reach like a spear, but it is useful throughout (where as the shaft of the spear can at best be used as a staff which despite the shaolin monk meme was not actually a very good one) because it is a long blade. Now, many vidya have two handed swords as weapons that pierce armour simply because it is two handed. This is just stupid. The blade would definitely cleave apart mail...[/quote] And like that you've lost me. No, no they would not cut through mail. This isn't Deadliest Warrior, people aren't running around in butted mail made of low-grade galvanized steel. They'll be using at least soldered and more likely welded or riveted mail, and you aren't going to cut those with any kind of sword. Here's an example of an idiot with a claymore trying to cut through crappy soldered mail. This mail is one step up from butted, and he barely damages it, much less "cleaves it apart". Welded mail was both more common and stronger, and the top of the line riveted stuff was stronger still. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_I_fkRngNM There's more tests like this out there. Mail is by far stronger than people think it is. And also no, you can't stab through plate. Not even with a zweihander.