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[@ClocktowerEchos] Sounds about right. Tell me one thing tho: if they never had any nationalism, but lived in a collectivist empire, then how do they know what nation they are after human occupation. Are they their own, or are they still following the AIs who created them and want to bring their empire back?

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When I mean nationalism, I mean they have no true concept of what it is like being an American or Russian or Chinese or whatever instead of just being human. They have racial pride but they don't have the swearing of loyalty to individual nation-states since they never developed them.

They're separated now from the AI who created as they are all but extinct after some very violent purging on the part of the humans. The Ivrah are constantly be watched to make sure they aren't making AI of their own. Some have taken to cult-like worship of AI fragments or what physical remains are left but by and large, they are driven by a lot of hate as to them not only did humans kill their gods, but their parents. Double whammy of hate.