[@Tangletail] Except you're forgetting that honor is a really important thing in specific cultures. And in the circumstance you outlined, a man could and likely would swallow his own tongue before doing anything so immoral. He wouldn't just sit and watch- he'd fight back, and if he couldn't, he'd kill himself before any information could be forced from him. That's quite obvious. I would personally rather die than betray Israel, and would kill myself without qualms if I knew I was going to be tortured or otherwise suffer at the potential expense of my people, my country, my religion. And I'm a violin teacher, not a military officer...

One of the reasons Ba'alzamon keeps cutting her off is because [b]you're attempting to rush this campaign forward by like 6 months, by trying to bring up the solution that Ba'alzamon comes up with that ends up almost winning against Manetheren.[/b] Please, don't do that...  They won't even have the idea to approach through the rivers for several months. [b][u]Don't use OOC knowledge to boost your IC stuff.[/u][/b] 

The Shadow should have multiple roles during this; strategy and planning, actual battle on smaller scales, and 
[hider=spoiler]on a larger scale against the white tower[/hider], infiltration, individual duels, personal quests... you're thinking very limited, by trying to force the RP into its final stage.