[@Double Capybara] You think that excessively low populations are more realistic than ones that are quite high? Plus, these populations are all pre-Realta invasion :\ unless we want Rukbany to be empty after the invasion, I'd go with high pops. as a starting point. If Mongols did indeed have better technology and medicine, then I admit I'm unaware of that. Edit: and when you say 'it's not something I want to see other players going around with' that's just plain odd to me. I'm not interested in conquering anything - this isn't a 'game' where you win or lose to me. I'm far more interested in Fikra's issues with Fihriyi and Shaqmar's love-life than I am with conquering stuff. These numbers are just meant to emphasise their warrior culture and whatnot - and the fact they're fighting each other emphasises their disunity and internal bitterness.