[quote=@Kho] [@Double Capybara] You think that excessively low populations are more realistic than ones that are quite high? [/quote] In truth I'm not concerned about the general population nearly so much as I am about the army size. I honestly don't know what percentage of their people a nomadic tribe could realistically bring to battle, but even if we did allow for 200,000 or 300,000 Rukbans I would say that an army of 50,000 seems large. Especially given how nonchalantly the death of 11,000 is presented. When I talked about 50% of the population fighting, that was the extreme, the highest number that I could even imagine. I think it's much more reasonable to have 20% or less of the population fighting. If we cut the army sizes in half, an army of 25,000 still implies well over 100,000 Rukbans just on Shaqmar's side.