[@Kalas] I've got a mate who swears by tesco's extra blackcurrant and apple as the perfect cutting agent for any sort of snakebite. Was never for me though. I found it just adds an extra dimension of flavour to the mix, while what I want is something that masks it completely. That's why I went with Red Bull. It was - relatively - expensive, and I really hate the stuff on its own, but its got a distinct enough flavour to completely cover the rancid acidity of any white cider. Funnily enough that mate who swore by the TExtra blackcurrant and apple is now in his mid thirties, and yet cheap ass snakebite with diluting juice is still his tipple of choice. Some people just hate themselves I guess. Oh yeah, I feel ya. Me and my mates were absolutely terrible to each other when we got to drinking. One guy made it his life mission to shit-rim your glass every time you left it unattended. Every. [b]Single[/b]. [b]TIME[/b]. Regardless of where you where, whether it be at a homer, down the local, or in an [i]upscale[/i] club - I used the term loosely as there's no such thing as an upscale anything in Inverness - if you put your glass down anywhere near him, that was it, all bets were off. I still wont let a pint glass out of my hand without downing it's contents to this day, and I haven't been out with him in almost a year and a half. There was a lot of those in the trial period, but with repetition you managed to get the distance necessary to nail the maneuver without the related sartorial disaster. A well executed street walk was a thing of beauty. Though I think if I tried it now it would be a completely different story. Probably end up looking like I'd shat vomit. HA Map of Africa! There's a sign in our local Wetherspoons banning that very maneuver after like two dozen squaddies from down south were on a stag-doo up here, and tried their level best to get the entire bar involved. It was ... chaotic. [@Hillan] I'd go halfers with you to get Wraithy to take part.