[quote=@Buddha] [@Vilageidiotx] I'll start by cleansing Overwatch. Tracer may be fast but she can't hide from my gorilla-kin character forever. The real question is, what will be our 'Kristallnacht' equivalent. [/quote] It'll start when they make a gay duke nukem. "It's time to kick ass and suck cock, and I'm all outta cock!" [quote=@Dinh AaronMk] I honestly believed at this point that even the people that bitch about safe spaces are having their own safe spaces being infiltrated by things they don't like. Or this whole bullshit affair is just a projection of group A being mad group B dares exist in their media while the same group is mad group C is there and wants representation like them. They just need to realize they're equally bullshit and we need to chill out and realize we live on the same planet orbiting the same star. If you're mad LGBT people are in video games, I'd hate to see you in real-life. [/quote] Eh, safe spaces is one of those political phrases that took on a ridiculous life of its own. There was an extreme group in the minority of the sociological left that took the idea to bizarre extremes, like suggesting classes be segregated to keep black people from suffering the presence of white people, or stuff like that. And yeh, that was fucked up, but it was such a fringe thing that it wasn't a major threat. Now safe space is just some piece of jargon both sides throw at each other so that it's completely lost all meaning. What I always found funny about it is the accusation that women or gays in video games are pandering. Of course they are pandering, because that's what successful companies do; they pander so they can expand their market. Maybe there was a time when video games were purely artistic, in the sense that they were made without marketing in mind by people concerned souly with creation, but that time was long long ago. Video games are a big market, and in the last ten years or so they've became completely mainstream. Used to be you marketed games to that "core market" of young men because breaking out of that market was unfeasible. But now it is completely feasible to increase their marketing base by enlarging the demographic they appeal to. So of course they are going to do that. It isn't a concerted attack on conservative values, it's bland marketing pure and simple. They were doing that before, specific to their base, it's just that nobody complained because they were the ones being pandered to. Same schtick with the "War on Christmas" that you hear about every year. People see seasonal products marketed in a secular way, replacing "Christmas" with "Holiday" and shit like that, and they think that it's an atheistic scheme, when really it's a corporate decision to try to sell flashing lights to Jews. The left is not the only force at play when it comes to the erosion of tradition; I'd even argue it isn't by far the most powerful force at work to that end. It's capitalism that wants everything to be marketable to everybody, and it has been capitalism that has, both for better and for worse, most completely dismantled the conservative traditions of the first world. Conservative tradition pigeon-holes markets, and capitalism does not want to remain cooped up in traditional limitations.