[quote=@Buddha]
I do find it unfair that the developers then started insulting him personally. That's kinda shitty.
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Agreed, though if anyone deserves to be insulted personally it's a man who, in front of hundreds of thousands of people (not sure on video viewcounts), decided to 'debate', despite his credentials previously only being making loud shouty noises and surreal jokes. That being said, I enjoy his videos. 

[quote=@Buddha]And you make it seem like you don't think immigration is an important political issue and/or topic. It's not important to you?[/quote]

I am not an immigrant. While I do express concerns about the abused or downtrodden (like those poor souls who are currently locked out of their colleges at the moment due to the temporary immigration ban), often to coworkers who spout anti-poor or anti-immigrant rhetoric, I can't say whether or not I care actually has any affect on the outcome. Immigration hasn't been a real issue for 200 years (though that hasn't stopped people from believing it was at the time), it's the current politicians and anti-immigration spouting bobbleheads that are the problem. They're the ones making it a problem, I'm more concerned about their ilk still being in office. Basically, I view it as a non-issue that was made an issue by idiocy. Really, it's more likely voting Trump into office is the seed that made this an issue, because guess what, this ban was only made possible because he's in office. If we had elected Hillary, it'd just have been a few idiots spouting shit about Muslims. 

Hopefully everyone can get their head out of their asses and their fingers off their bare nipples before it becomes an actual issue, as in, a permanent immigration ban. Or, and this is the subject of many of my wet dreams, fire Trump, the guy spearheading this shit.

So yes, I care, but not enough to shout on twitter "FUCK YOU, TRUMP, YOUR MUMS A CUNT AND I FUCKED HER, THAT I DID"

[quote=@SleepingSilence]
[@Chrononaut] I'm beyond not following this conversation, but mildly skimming. I saw you posting some statistics and someone correcting you that a site posted them was a bad site. 

That doesn't mean the statistics are wrong in anyway...it could very well be that the site itself is attempting to use that data in a negative or hateful way. But yes...I posted statistics from three sources. Crime is a real problem...it's not racist to point it out. Sometimes a narrative will crumble under evidence, doesn't necessary mean the other extreme is correct either.
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You're right, because the statistics were taken from the Department of Justice, but the math the website did being suspect is my main concern. So, actual stats probably ok, some of the stuff I quoted suspect.