[quote=@SleepingSilence] [@Dinh AaronMk] I'm very tired, but I will attempt to read and respond. Be lenient. <.< I know that was a joke, but really people that can look at America. See that it's the most powerful, richest nation, largest population, who uses it's military overseas to protect the rest of the free world. Yada yada 'Murica' yada. Just saying to make a point. (of course every system is flawed and can be corrupted. Humans exist.) And go..."Yep, Capitalism probably doesn't work as well as Socialism does." and be sincere about it...the internet would not be what it is today, without it. (yes, it may have possibly existed, but not in it's current form.) [/quote] I think Vilage has got the rest, so: [quote]America... most powerful[/quote] If only because after two world-wars the traditional old guards of the world police stage had been ground down into minor powers on the global or became restricted to an inactive regional stage and there were only two powers now they could turn to to resolve their concerns with their overseas Empires: The Soviet Union who would sooner dissolve their Empires and the US who would sooner get involved to attempt to preserve their Empires. And because the USSR was effectively isolated for not being friendly to the notion of people owning capital as private property and in general hostile to capitalism, they weren't going to be invited to the party. So it was the US on the world stage from then on: because we only lost one navy base. [quote]richest nation[/quote] Only because like above the rest of the world was badly hit by two world wars and there was no one left in Europe to run a global market. So the US stepped in and profited - especially after the second - in the reconstruction of Europe. Even the Soviet Union had to resolve physical damages to Russia, and the US was the only country left with a well-functioning material and commercial economy to supply Europe with the food and manufactured goods to set them back on their feet. And not only that: The Japanese. Unlike in the inter-war period when the US hoarded the world's gold supply and quite possibly forced the Depression, the US kept the wheels of capital moving and in return got a booming mid-century economy. [quote]largest population[/quote] [img]https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/82/72/1d/82721d392c00969cd39483d139917b1d.jpg[/img] [quote]who uses it's military overseas to protect the rest of the free world[/quote] "PROTECT" HE USED THE WORD [img]https://www.etan.org/etan/graphic2/chomsky-film%20crop.jpg[/img] [quote]the internet would not be what it is today, without it.[/quote] Actually, it probably would have. The key thing to consider about the internet is that the coding infrastructure behind it did not arise because it was the superior product, it did not offer the fastest or necessarily the easiest language to build the internet off of. And it certainly was not compatible with the other networks out there (see: Gopher). What it was however was: free. Generally in capitalism anything that is free is inherently anti-capitalist because you're not making money off of it. But it wasn't just free, it was open source. Which makes even more so. If Socialism is defined as the theory in which the workers or the community owns the means of production, then being free and open sourced and totally without royalty means that it is one of the ultimate socialist frameworks to arise from late-stage capitalism. There's no boss or leading organization telling you how to use it to maximize profits, or them owning all the rights to do with it as they will to maximize prophets. The internet, its code being available to anyone and its backbone being so easy and publicly built upon and changed by anyone sets up a world of perfect anarchy. Of course corporate server farms exist, but that's a whole other notion. But back in the early days when companies hadn't made the jump over when the internet began becoming more ubiquitous this wasn't the case.