[@Vilageidiotx] I'll just have to say we'll just have to agree to disagree on this, though I will say I never advocated for just ousting welfare, but I do think that it should only benefit actual U.S. citizens and not illegal aliens. Welfare in its current form is unsustainable and will run out of money eventually. To compensate the government might raise taxes making it harder for more middle class families to stay in the middle class. I'l argue it would be much better to overhaul the system and make it more sustainable and useful to American citizens before it completely crashes down, sending the entire country into a downward spiral instead of nipping the problem in the bud before that can happen. Frankly it may be too late already; however a little chaos now would be much better than another depression hitting making it impossible for anyone to live with basic needs expect the very rich. Welfare [i]will[/i] run out in its current form and when it does, everyone will be in a much worse position instead of just a few while a more streamlined and efficient system is put in place. Also, of course there will always be scumbags who abuse the system, any system, but just because no system is ever [i]perfect[/i] is not a valid argument against trying to [i]improve[/i] the current system. The current system has too many flaws and is easily abused, so might as well make it harder for that abuse to happen, if you can make it not worth the effort to try and abuse the system anymore then less and less bad people will bother trying. Food stamps are an utter disgrace with very shoddy regulation. People abuse the system by applying in two states so they can get double the food stamps. Also food stamps can often be used on items with little to no nutritional value, fraud is rampant, and big businesses get in on the action so they can use those funds for themselves by selling people horrible products they buy with those stamps. Now its not like I have the answers to these problems but I am quite certain things could be improved dramatically with better regulations. Just the fact that an entire section of town is essentially reliant on government issued food stamps shows there is a [i]serious[/i] problem going on there that needs to be fixed. Any town that reliant on food stamps needs to have some serious work done to make sure that is no longer the case.