[quote=@SleepingSilence] You [b]did[/b] say that...it also appears edited from the last time I looked at it. (But it was late when I read it.) And not really, his first post was more about shutting people up and expressing he wanted discussion. And if the next question is "why have a discussion then?" My answer is. "Why make a bloody post then?" [/quote] No, I did NOT say that. It is not edited- I rarely edit my posts unless I left something out. I said "PRETTY MUCH EVERYONE" but somehow, FOR SOME GOD FORSAKEN REASON, you somehow misconstrued that to "LITERALLY EVERYONE SAID THEY SAW THE MOVIE, AND GAVE THEIR OPINIONS ON IT, WHY COULDN'T YOU!?!" I said "PRETTY MUCH everyone" because I can acknowledge that there WERE some people that said they were going to regurgitate the popular opinion on the movie, without having seen it (which they NEVER DID, mind you, probably because they said that as a [i]fucking joke.[/i]) His first post was about wanting to discuss a movie he liked with people who actually saw the movie. Stop putting words in people's mouths. [quote=@SleepingSilence] I asked about his opinions on off topic discussions, had nothing to do with the movie and my hesitant feelings about it. He shit on and dismissed those too...:/ And I asked him, what counter points would you have to my statements? And he didn't address them whatsoever... If saying I'm glad you enjoyed it, is something derogatory or mocking. Please inform me how. Just because I was mostly critical, I don't think I was particularly rude. Him on the other hand. [/quote] If you think, FOR A SECOND, that I'm going to bring something like that out of the blue, then there's an issue. I was referring to this: [quote=@SleepingSilence] "Others seemed to dislike it, why did you like it?" [/quote] Your stupid version of what's supposed to be a nice, not-shitty way of starting an argument. But you want to talk about your first post? Fine! More power to you! Lemme join in for a second here! [quote=@SleepingSilence] Not really that big of a fan, saw the show forever ago when it was on adult swim. But even cursory knowledge of the anime. I never thought this would be a good movie, I'm not even sure it could work with a good director...and not the guy who made Snow White & The Huntsman. [/quote] This is a strong beginning to a discussion. Talking about how you weren't a fan (someone who hadn't read the rest of this thread could think you actually SAW the movie), while talking about how you saw the show quite a bit ago. Fair enough. Fine. Not rude. Moving on to th NEXT part. [quote=@SleepingSilence] But if you saw it, and enjoyed it. Good. Nothing wrong with that. :3 But you certainly seem to be in the minority on that one, critics and IMDB users seem to all dislike it. The shitty remakes seem to be in full demand nowadays...just listening to a clip of Beauty and the Beast, the auto tuning was so, so bad. [/quote] [quote=@SleepingSilence] But if you saw it, and enjoyed it. Good. Nothing wrong with that. [/quote] Could be snarky. Don't want to make assumptions. [quote=@SleepingSilence] :3 [/quote] Right, fuck you for this one. [quote=@SleepingSilence] But you certainly seem to be in the minority on that one, critics and IMDB users seem to all dislike it. [/quote] It sounds like being in the minority here is a negative thing, and like you're looking down onto the people that liked the movie with a snide grin. "Oh, you liked that movie? I guess we all have your opinions, even if everyone else disliked it." But y'know what? Maybe that's unfair. [quote=@SleepingSilence] On a unrelated note, people defending netflix's death note...I'm not even really a "weeb" by any standard. But how can anyone expect that to be any good? Especially by that trailer...You know, maybe it's the cynic in me. But as much as people like to laugh at people for overreacting...(and granted, It's the internet, it's always overreacting in all circles.) But at the very same time, how many times does it actually turn out that the nerd rage was wrong? I swear more often than not, people are right on the money...maybe by the simple fact it's easier to cash grab and suck. Then to actually be good and put effort in something. But I can't remember of any video game and movie rage fest, that didn't turn out almost exactly as expected...at least recently. [/quote] Entirely off-topic...though at the end you started talking about how every-time there's been a bad remake recently, the nerds called it. Back on the topic at hand, you mentioned how critics disliked Ghost in the Shell, almost confirming what you said was correct. But that's not rude, is it? To bring up how a movie someone liked was bashed by critics, how they're the minority for liking it, how all the nerds called it would be terrible, and how they're almost always right. Driven right home by this shitty nail in the coffin: [quote=@SleepingSilence] *Shrug* Just a random thought. :P [/quote] Bull-fucking-shit "just a random thought." Even capped off by shrugging and posting that fucking rude-ass tongue-out emote. Are we done here? Can we move on? Yes? Alright. [quote=@SleepingSilence] Maybe if someone says, "Don't speak negatively about this movie evers!" [/quote] Once again. You're putting words in Awson's mouth. [quote=@SleepingSilence] I can ask them about a different movie in a similar vein, and have that person go. "I have an opinion on that, so allow me to share it with you, or I have no opinion on that unfortunately. But have you seen that movie? You should lemme tell you my thoughts about it." [/quote] Except you didn't do that. When told you were just spouting someone else's opinion you said "You make it sound like I care" with another one of those dumb-ass tongue-out emotes. You clearly didn't and still don't care about having an actual discussion about the movie. You then proceeded to call them a meany because they didn't want to talk to someone about a movie that person hasn't seen. How hard is that to understand? Where is the conversation with someone who's just read reviews or seen a plot synopsis on Wikipedia? What can you talk about if you haven't actually seen the movie? Well, [i]besides the stuff you could have actually talked about that I mentioned up there.[/i] [quote=@SleepingSilence] Because that's what a social person would do. ^-^ Make a discussion even if it's not a direct subject to their particular topic. NOT get on a pedestal and be a high and mighty and call their opinions too low to discuss with. [/quote] They're not [i]YOUR[/i] opinions your discussing with. They're someone else's Awson has probably already had plenty of discussions about. [quote=@SleepingSilence] I was being social, (granted not perfect, but when your rejected so bluntly at a start without a good reason. It happens.) I didn't see the movie, but I DID see reviews for it. Because I often do look at them first. Being honest and sincere about my unsure feelings, and since I was uninformed. Asked about something similar instead. Hoping (in vain) that I could still start a friendly informative discussion about something. See how social-ness/starting discussions with other people and how it works now? (or at least how I see the 101 guide on "How to be social online.") :D [/quote] See, now, half of that? Fair enough! You've got me there- you wanted to talk about the movie without having seen it. But don't feel offended when someone says they don't want to talk to you about a movie they've seen and you haven't. And you didn't ask about something similar- you brought up something similar to prove a point, which is a right cunt thing to do. You even tried framing it as "off-topic." If everyone went by your way of "starting a conversation online and being social", there'd be many, many more arguments. And if you want an example of someone in this thread being perfectly social, here's fucking Awson doing a damn good job at it: [quote=@Awson] Ghost in the Shell is a good movie[/quote] [quote=@Raddum] false [/quote] [quote=@Awson] @Raddum Have you seen it? Why do you think that? [/quote] A pretty good example of how to start a conversation with someone that has a different opinion than yours. Finally, because I haven't tackled this one enough: [quote=@SleepingSilence] And if the next question is "why have a discussion then?" My answer is. "Why make a bloody post then?" [/quote] Because Awson wanted to discuss a movie he liked with people who's opinions he respects, or at least wants to hear. He has a higher opinion of the Spam than you do, clearly. YOU, though, YOU think Spam is anti-social, and won't have your opinions at all...so [quote=mdk] Why are you STILL still here? [/quote] Christ, it feels like I'm becoming Jorick.