[quote=@Lucian] Not saying we shouldn't defend ourselves and our interests, just saying that it's a mindset that stems from a certain culture and set of beliefs, and bombs don't change that sort of thing. [/quote] On the contrary, bombs change mindsets all the time. Shit, we're posting in English after all. We didn't win the various world wars because of our superior identity politics. Anywho the reason the MOAB makes me happy... when you talk a big game and don't follow through, that's [i]really bad[/i]. When you back up your words with decisive action, your words have meaning again. THAT is the essential step towards peace.