[quote=@Raddum] The thing is, the GM's are desperate for their large playerbases, and don't give a shit half the time. While some GM's have level heads and think shit through, other people just want those 10+ players for the sake of having extra stock if a few drop out. The shift in quality due to this is painful at times, and then the decent people leave, and the worst of the community is left there. Then the GM kills it, or the players just don't have the ability to move forward due to either being unable to do anything themselves due to incompetence, or because the GM isn't hand holding. Or it's plot-heavy and the GM just flops. Because that happens. [/quote] that's true. to be honest, i looked over that fact because the moment i see a bad rper joining an rp that i'm in, i'm out. if the gm is willing to accept players like that then they clearly aren't dedicated enough to their rp and will just run it into the ground. for reals tho how hard is it to think to yourself "will i still be interested in and want to actively post in this rp later down the line?" when applying. like tf.