[quote=@Buddha] No. I would prefer to have user elected moderators. But I fear the outcome would be even worse. But I don't trust the community [i]or[/i] the moderators to make that call anymore. The mods have proven they don't really care, the community has proven they're too clique-y for that. IDK what other solution there is. Do you trust the mods to make that call unbiased? [/quote] No, I personally cannot trust everyone to make the call. No matter what option we decide, we are fucked. Unless, Mazh realizes that there is a problem and tries to fix it. But, I do not even believe that it will be completely fix. It would be funny if someone tried to make a site that is almost identical to this site. [quote=@Raddum] While I personally have a group of people who I can group with from here off-site (And in 1x1's as well) I can understand your problem. Iwaku isn't really a good alternative regardless of a ban, but all I can suggest is getting off-site info for the good people you know on this forum and hope if this site goes down you can hang with them still. [/quote] Fair enough. It does sound like a good idea to talk to people that I trust about other options. Thanks.