[quote=@Inkarnate] Perhaps having a modicum of civility and respect would be better than such approaches. I suppose that is why Arena has the illicit reputation that it does. Something to think on, perhaps. [/quote] Well I was absolutely agreeing with you which is why I asked him to watch his language. But I sure hope you wouldn't judge the Arena community's ability to have rational conversations based on one post by one individual? Because that would be very short sighted.