[@Kratesis] I don't know you personally but I know the other three personally. Rest assured it's shit brewing. Excuse me for telling you to basically GTFO but again, I feel like we're reaching something with this thread, or at the very least I feel like the moderators are acknowledging our position in terms of other issues. So I'd like to keep that going. See what we can reach. I don't want this to turn into a thread devoted to, idk, making jokes with your buddies (even though I love that stuff too). 

I'd reply to your actual input but at the moment it's 3 am (screw this thread right?) and I don't feel like I could give you a proper response to what seems to be well thought out.