[quote=@Buddha] [@Fallenreaper] I'd argue that 5 out of 200 peak users isn't that much. Furthermore, there is indeed a sort of in between classification for people that do both arena roleplay and other roleplay, hence I might not associate them with arena necessarily. I know both Yoshua and Ganryu and neither of them strike me as hardcore arena roleplayers. So, in my mind, they don't come up. They still don't. [/quote] That's the difference between our classifications. I include anyone that does play in it, even rarely, as part of the activity. Mainly as you need to recall that there are rps out there that can play bi-monthly or longer, and still thrive. They also happen in the Advance and Casual, though the latter I haven't seen happen very often. Pace is also something to consider as honestly, I'm not a player that would continually fight in an arena thread every day and likely make weekly or even monthly posts instead depending on the counter I have to make. Should that hurt the forum because I like taking my time, reasoning out my options, taking breaks, etc like any other rp rather than just post every week/day? I hope not. To be honest, I feel like you're trying to create space that we won't use and feels that's a bit of a dumb idea. This wasn't the most active sub forum (as a friend pointed out) when it was created but it didn't hurt anything being a separated subforum. Mainly because this [quote=@Buddha] But I remain of the opinion that arena RP is too inactive for it's own good and have yet to hear anything that strikes me as a good idea when it comes to fixing that. Saying that the tournament will improve that is meaningless when there is (as Melon stated) 7 months between this one and the last tournament. Arena RP moves slowly, very very slowly. Perhaps this is not an issue to you, but it's certainly not doing you any favors, which is why I had also suggested something like a tournament master function with a title for people who want to help make arena more active by hosting tournaments (because tournaments were cited as a period when arena became alive again). [/quote] This sort of still comes back to the original point I made: You can lead a horse to water, but honestly you can't make him drink. We can likely come up with all sort of ideas, but if the users aren't interested in playing in combat focused rps... I don't honestly think it will do any good. That's my thoughts over it. Namely as this has been tried several times already by the active here if you look in the history of this thread as this topic has been brought up at least 2-3 times over the existence of this thread. Honestly, I've had ideas but not confident in applying them due to my lack of experience and having my confidence in my fighting common sense crushed terribly. Even when both of us had no hard feelings, that honestly I'm sad to say left a mark I'm still trying to recover from and currently feel like I'm not a very good fighter at all- save in pre-plotted stories. So yeah... that's my two cents and I apologize if it sounds negative or upset anyone. Personally, I don't see why we need to lump together all the lower activity forums when we are just creating space we really aren't going to use and just makes the forum look more bare bones to me. It doesn't promise more activity or that any changes will be drastic, it only gives that illusion of 'activity'. Having the arena separate isn't hurting anyone then why do it? It did fine as a separate sub forum in the last guild version after all. That's just my thoughts again.