[quote=@The Nexerus]
Are you truly under the impression that everyone in the upper management of every company on Earth spends the work day diddling their asshole? 
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Yes. Kings have job descriptions too, but when you get rid of them society doesn't fall apart.

[quote=@DepressedSoviet]
My views on Communism are rather basic, I suppose. I see Communism as a method of purging unnecessary people and bureaucracy in the means of production of all goods. Basically, Communism to me means abolishing anyone who is not necessary for the production of whatever the company produces, or abolishing businesses or organizations that are not necessary to the industry they are involved in.
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That's Utopian. The purpose is to take all of the thing Nexerus says we need a landed aristocracy for and democratizing it. Which is to say the Bureaucracy doesn't disappear, since it is part of the production process. 

[quote=@BrobyDDark]
I like looking at people who talk about Communism, because they always present the """""true""""" form of Communism that is always different from how Communism really is.

Communism in itself is not something that can work on its own. It always has to be shifted to be something else for it to work in every Communists' eyes. It's come to the point that everyone who is a """""Communist""""" is actually just someone who follows a different ideology loosely based on communism. 
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Marxism/Leninism doesn't work because it is predicated on the belief that democracy doesn't work, and once you've made that decision than you have decided that the people cannot rule themselves, which defeats the purpose of trying to put the people in charge of the economy. 

I personally believe that aristocrats throughout history have been frauds. I think the historical pattern where aristocrats continue to leach power from their civilization until they take too much and their civilization stagnates and either goes through revolution, collapses, or becomes undefendable, is telling. I think the United States is currently entering that stagnation process.

My main beef with the far left is the sectarian nature of it. I think most of those beliefs are endangered because they are always too worried about the rules, like someone holding up the game to read the rulebook until everyone gets annoyed.   

I also think the far left throughout history usually fails. Aristocrats are frauds, but they are really good frauds. So if I had to put money on it, I wouldn't bet that the left will win and we'll enter some Star Trek future, rather I'd bet that our civilization is going to stagnate and fall apart. What that'll look like in the modern world is hard to tell. I'm just reaaallly hoping that it waits until I die before any of the really hairy shit happens. Let me be the last generation of the waning civilization, not the first generation of the First Intermediate Period of the Anglo-Saxon civilization.