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@DracoLunarisI'm aware of the single hitpoint. It reads out that way both during the mock fight and the actual fight, so I wasn't exactly sure how seriously I was supposed to take that. Because even when he recieves overkill damage with his single point, he still has life left within him drag himself away as opposed to fading into dust, and that's without Determination. The game has somewhat of a tendency to intentionally mislead for one reason or another. Like I said, though, I could just be reading too far into it.
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I just had an amusing realization. If San's only has 1 Hit Point but has insane dodging abilities, then the most terrifying weapon he could ever come up against would be the Excalipoor. In Final Fantasy V it hits for only a single point of damage, regardless of your stats, but it's a guaranteed hit.

Up against that I guess you could say he'd be...boned.

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@Crosswire@WingsOfBronze@Etherean FireActually, that may have to change. We can't have Sans with 1 HP through the entire game. Regardless how fast he is, there will be times where he'll get hit. I also await the day where I ban the character from ever being used in this game. Undertale will be a hard game to create continuous level ups for without anyone calling BS. The characters are more than likely going to be relying heavily on Special Abilities.
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@Holy Soldier, I would like to enter Slayer in the arena.
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@Crosswire@WingsOfBronze@Etherean FireActually, that may have to change. We can't have Sans with 1 HP through the entire game. Regardless how fast he is, there will be times where he'll get hit. I also await the day where I ban the character from ever being used in this game. Undertale will be a hard game to create continuous level ups for without anyone calling BS. The characters are more than likely going to be relying heavily on Special Abilities.

I agree with you in regards to his HP. He'll die quickly otherwise. However saying you want an excuse to ban a character feels kind of mean spirited Holy. :C

Unless I'm simply misreading the tone.

Sans may not have a clear route for ability progression suited for the leveling up system of the roleplay, but that's the case for plenty of characters who would otherwise be great potential additions to the game. Not every character has explicit growth or development in their games.

Jack for example doesn't have any growth in Dead to Rights: Retribution. So the most I can do is chop up his core abilities and deal them out piecemeal for 'upgrades' and after that I'm stuck giving him the few weapons he can pick up in game [i](pistol, sub-machinegun, shotgun, assault rifle, sniper rifle, rocket launcher, the usual boring shooter deal) and relying on Special Abilities for anything interesting.

Stuff Jack can Do
  • Punch People
  • Shoot Guns (only able to pickup and carry two at a time, they're more or less disposable since ammo pickups aren't a thing in game)
  • Grow emotionally attached to head and chest high walls due to Wallhugging Syndrome (Aka Gears of War Disease)
  • Bullet Time
  • Disarm Enemies
  • Preform melee/weapon take downs on weakened enemies.
  • Have is monstrous dog separate enemies from their pelvises. Aka Shadow literally maims their groins and I'm pretty sure he eats their balls. It's kind of disturbing now that I think about it
  • Kind of/sort of share senses with Shadow? It's not really a stated thing, but in game Shadow can see enemy heartbeats and thus more or less see enemies through walls. Even when playing as Jack you can do this so...

And that's pretty much it. Though he does put on a neat suit of G.A.C armor (though it doesn't do anything in game sadly) and temporarily boards a large powered exoskeleton with a gatling gun for a shoot-em-up section near the end of the game, so I could potentially have those as upgrades if I stretched things but probably not.

However that doesn't make Jack bad.

I chose him knowing full well he wasn't exactly deep or well developed. However I saw this game as a chance to expand on his character/personality. Getting to play grizzled, punchy, loose cannon cop who is a virtual nobody in the world of videogames alongside wisecracking skeletons and Gem Fabio from LoL sounds like an amazing experience.

If you forced people to stick to player characters with clearly defined ability progression then you'd eliminate tons of games and potentially interesting characters. I understand there has to be some kind of basis to work off of, otherwise people are just pulling stuff out of their butts which becomes very problematic very fast.

You're trying to keep things orderly and that's good policy for a moderator. At the same time however I think people should be given some leeway. If a problem comes up then there's no reason we can't be diplomatic about things and come to a discussed solution.
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Reference the lists on the Character Thread. I still need for people to tell me which worlds they want to go to. Spyro or Kirby. Just Alphas tell me.
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@Holy Soldier I'd like Jack Slate and Shadow to go to Spyro's World please.
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I chose him knowing full well he wasn't exactly deep or well developed. However I saw this game as a chance to expand on his character/personality. Getting to play grizzled, punchy, loose cannon cop who is a virtual nobody in the world of videogames alongside wisecracking skeletons and Gem Fabio from LoL sounds like an amazing experience.


I'm archiving this.
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@Etherean FireAwwww, thanks. It was honestly the best way I could describe my expectations for this roleplay at the present time. That and 'Fabio with Gems' is just my automatic description of Teric from LoL.
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@Holy Soldier Spyro for Steve!
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Spyro's World!! YeAH I'll use Sans since Bartz are in the Smash.
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@Holy Soldier Bayo can go for Spyro then.
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@Holy Soldier Alicia shall also go to Spyro I think.
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@Etherean Fire@Crosswire@Holy Soldier
In the game, it doesn't matter if the player is OP, because no matter how it is, Sans just really have 1 HP. aaand maybe we can change that? So maybe I'll back up the idea of Sans entering Spyro world. Can Bartz participate at Smash before Spyro?

I'll make Sans linger around at EXP Events, make him stronger through it until achieved a Special Ability. His next general abilities would be the blasters and the psychokinesis. And uh, you can hit Sans if you just want his attention or it has no real reason to kill him.
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@WingsOfBronzeThe Smash Arena event is happening before the missions. Missions won't begin until after the Smash event and some other small quests about Platform City. You see this? "Platform City" not Pixie City or whatever you call it.
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@Holy SoldierSpeaking of typos and shit...

Jack Slate - Dead to Rise?: Retribution - @Crosswire


Lol.

Sorry. Couldn't resist Forgot to point it out earlier.
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@Holy Soldier

So I'll change his HP to 100. Or 1000, because 1k looks like the most average HP.

(I tried to find when I placed Pixie City, can't find it or it was just autocorrect trolling me)
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@Holy Soldier Taric will go to spyro's world
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@Holy SoldierSpeaking of typos and shit...

<Snipped quote by Holy Soldier>

Lol.

Sorry. Couldn't resist Forgot to point it out earlier.


Hahaha. That typo just made me think of something amusing.

Jack Slate: Dead to Rise? No it's Dead to Rights why would it be Ris-

Frank West: I'VE COVERED WARS YOU KNOW.

Jack Slate: Damn it, West. Fuck off! I have trouble standing out as it is without you trying to sabotage me. Go be obnoxious to the Resident Evil folks.

Frank West: I'll be back Jack! You may think you're safe in obscurity, but one of these days when you least expect it you'll get beaten to death with a television set by someone in a dress with no pants and it'll be ME.



Jack Slate: I'm pretty sure out of the thousands of possible characters in this slurry pit of a universe it could ONLY be you, Frank.

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@Holy Soldier I just noticed that Jack isn't on the Smash Arena sign up sheet even though I asked. I hope you didn't forget me :C
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