[quote=@SleepingSilence] My liberal/left side questions, since socialism and communism are different but both lead to the wealth redistribution that they both clearly want. Why would one prefer communism OVER socialism? [/quote] My two, poorly minted cents is that its the whole idea of utopia that comes with having polarizing views. Socialism is a compromise more in the middle (despite a lot of people claiming that socialism is literally renamed communism which it isn't). Communists want a communist utopia where everyone has equal rights to the means of production and the products, Capitalists want a Capitalist Utopia where government doesn't interfere with the market and everyone gets rich. People don't like compromises so I guess its that. A less likely theory is that because so many people think communism = socialism, communists and socialists just get lumped together. My personal (real) take on what would be "ideal" is socialism leaning towards communism but not full on communism (out side of memes). I trust the government more than I trust business since government has the purpose of keeping a nation together while corporations have the purpose of making money which I believe can lead to some interesting predicaments where an action take makes money, but fucks over a lot of people (ie axing all social welfare and letting people hopefully figure shit out on their own). I know people are going to say "you're stupid/blind/foolish for putting your faith in a centralized government!" but I don't really care since again, I have faith in the central government just like how people have undying faith in the free market. I find that to be a foolish notion, so in a sense, everyone is a fool to everyone else. I feel that Communism is too idealistic for humans as a race because the idea of not taking ever advantage we can goes against our biological and evolutionary coding. That's why Capitalism works; because it better works off our primal programming. A society without government where all are free to do as we wish and all are equal and rich is something that would appeal to everyone on both sides, but human nature will never allow it. We're just too competitive and we just want more stuff no matter what that path towards stuff does to use or the Earth. [quote=@SleepingSilence] There's my two cents. Now I disappear and wait to be called evil. ^3^ [/quote] [img]https://i.ytimg.com/vi/cONmzaT4x10/maxresdefault.jpg[/img]