[quote=@AtlasRize]
I fail to see how we're trying to impose anything on anyone other than just simply saying "this is how these characters that we created work." None of us is dictating how other people's entries work. Also I still think you're missing the point that "ether" is just a word used to encompass an array of other things.[/quote]

No I know exactly how it functions. The concern and general violation is the stack, and if not the stack is the borderline Schedule 2 because it can be formed to do anything.


[quote=@AtlasRize]
Logic is logic, and applies equally well to fantasy as it does to reality. Unless you're operating on a basis of intended refutation of logic for some reason - chaos, entropy, some of the more bizarre things that have popped up in comics over the years whose stated intention is to defy logic purposefully - then logic can be applied regardless of the fantastical nature of the subjects you're working with. Logic is just logic. "Does it make sense for Subject A to interact in this manner with Subject B" or "Is there an understandable relationship between Subject C and Subject D." Fantasy and logic are not mutually exclusive concepts. Don't conflate logic with realism. [/quote]

You are conflating logic with fantasy considering people can come in with whatever they want however they want it. The very thing Ether is a contention for, but somehow that's more "logical" than saying it doesn't exist.


[quote=@AtlasRize]I don't see that this is being ignored at all. Frankly, I'm afraid this whole thing is now getting buried in semantics. Forces interact, as they should. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding you, but everything I've seen suggests that you're saying that the forces don't interact. Apologies if I am misunderstanding your point of view, but the whole point of the way some of the characters are built is that the forces do indeed interact, regardless of what label that has been applied to them. Really, that's the whole concept behind this "ether" term that you seem to dislike.[/quote]

Your little jabs aside -- then we can agree that there is an interaction. Why does an omni-power require compatibility again?

Here is my stance because apparently this hasn't been stated or perhaps certain people are misconstruing the issue. I don't care about fluff. I don't care what you name the color pink as even if it's red or blue or no color at all. I don't mind you and your crew wanting Ether for their own characters and powers, because that isn't the point of contention. I don't care if someone has a Naruto character that uses Chakra, as Chakra behaviors similarly to Ether minus the whole multiverse lore. The problem isn't the Ether but its potential application. The application of such a tremendous blanketed power with a broad classification you guys advocating for is what I am after. You got it twisted. The issue is that with how it is presented it can be applied to do an array of EVERYTHING no matter how out of the way it is. You are subscribing to a "realm energy" where you can conjure any force or any kind of power(s) type. That is Stacking by definition of the tournament.

I don't mind the energy itself if it functioned to justify your character's power(s) and sub-types, but all I have seen is "it can do anything" and then allows you to do everything. The oversight of Laser's Blazing Heart is exactly this. Some of you even described it as an unlimited plane of everything. The worst can be that, potentially, you can even classify other people's powers to Ether which can give you the "root" or "fundamental" building blocks to cripple or even meta an attack. This is why TZDL will not adhere to realm energies. I don't mind them for your characters if it is isolated to just that, but I ask for a scale down on how infinitely broad it is in application.