[@catchamber] If people stop interacting with governments they get shot or jailed. But we've already got into this discussion so I have a feeling we both know each other's position already. As for providing instances for the UN's incompetence and doing things that don't help anyone. I can literally go back to the very last thing they have been in the news for doing, which was the pissing contest with Trump. Or the Paris Climate Accord which would have screwed over the United States primarily. And they're also in my articles. The quora article has plenty of information on that. The things I can't find, are recent examples of them being useful...(or any instance it wasn't primarily America's doing.)