[quote=Jannah]
Well that's exactly it. I don't like Hitchens, Dawkins, etc. However, I do respect Dawkins for his work in evolutionary biology. He should have just stuck to that though since it's what he's actually good at.[/quote]

Just because you don't agree with his opinions doesn't mean he isn't good at the secular humanism thing. :gray

But yeah, I figured that would be your reason for disliking it. We could skip having any sort of debate on the matter and agree to disagree, just to save us both a lot of time and effort.

[quote]There's many dogmatic atheists and I don't like them either. Like there's that whole "atheist church" thing. That just seems weird. Why set up something that is almost universally a symbol of the exact group you claim to oppose? I have also noticed there tends to be a lot of conspiracy theorists in the atheist community. I suppose "free thinking" for them is taken a bit too literal. *shrugs*
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I'm against dogma (which I define as things that are held as unquestionably true by a group) of all kinds (because everything is open to and should be questioned), so I'm with you there. "Atheist church" feels like an oxymoron, and I really detest how some have tried to put forth various texts as being worthy of becoming the "holy text" of atheism. The whole point is a lack of belief in a deity, why must they try to build a belief system around that one lack of belief? It's just awkward.

Eh, I haven't seen any great number of atheist conspiracy theorists. I've seen more religious ones, but I account that just to pure demographics more than anything else. Crazy fucks come in all shapes and sizes, so no surprise that some would be drawn to atheist things. Maybe they think that free thought means atheists want to free their minds from the control of the aliens/robots/lizard people, so they won't have to wear their aluminum foil caps for protection any more. :hehe