[quote=mdk]
Are you familiar with the story of the christian fish? 

I mean besides that it's a fish, do you know about it? Homework assignment.[/quote]

Yes, early Christians were persecuted by the predominantly Jewish Romans and used the symbol to secretly meet and such; however, as I said in what you quoted, I'm well aware certain religions have been hated and discriminated against [i]by other religions[/i] before. Antisemitism is a thing with its own word, but again that's a religiously based thing, it's one that falls under the umbrella of bigotry because it's hatred for a group whose religious beliefs differ from the ones a person happens to think are right. In the post I quoted you were speaking of general anti-religious sentiments, or at least that's how I read it. You said there was no word for anti-religious zeal, not that there was no word for anti-Christian zeal. If you'd specified rather than speaking in general terms that would have been a rather different post, because things are very different when you go from talking about religion as a whole to talking about a specific form of it.

[quote]Okay, I'm gonna do us both a favor and delete what was about to go on here. There is some..... unsafe things happening with my medicinal situation, and it's not gonna .... make for like, you know, ah..... a good read. But the long and short of it is, you have decided that that, which is most precious to me, is not 
INNATE ENOUGH
and therefore it's not a big deal, I mean, it's not like you were BORN with a soul, right? So who cares?

this is like ten paragraphs beyond the place where I should really stop. Okay. But that's exactly what I mean, right? 'It's not okay to hate this this or this, but go ahead, hate christianity, I don't give a fuck, not my bible."

Walking away. I just zoned out and had a conversation with littlefinger. We'll revisit this later.
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Er, did you read the last part of that paragraph? I absolutely and emphatically stand by the fact that religion or lack thereof is not an innate characteristic; something that can be converted to or from at the drop of a dime is not an innate characteristic, end of story. However, if you read further, such as to the second to last sentence of that paragraph, I said that using that as a claim for why discrimination is allowable is pure and simple bullshit. The last sentence of that paragraph was me giving my thoughts on why people in general don't see religious discrimination as being as bad as other kinds of discrimination (the innate vs. not innate thing), not me agreeing with that stance. Discrimination is discrimination, doesn't matter what it's based on, if you're treating one person or group worse than another because of things that aren't harming anyone else you're an asshat, plain and simple; that part about harming others is in there because I make allowances for discriminating against murderers and such, because that's entirely reasonable discrimination.

So yeah, dunno if it was because of how I phrased things or what, but I'm gonna call this one a misunderstanding. We're in agreement here that discrimination based on religious views is the same level of bullshit as discrimination based on race, gender, or sexuality.

[quote=Jannah]
That's not my reason for disliking them. It was just another point I brought up. I'd rather not get into why I dislike them as it could turn ugly. I need sleep soon anyway(class in the morning).
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Oh, alright then, mistaken assumption on my part. Fair enough on not wanting to bring specifics up, things can turn ugly with these topics even when people are just rehashing the same tired old points they've always used, so introducing anything new and possibly controversial could make some heads explode. People are silly like that. :hehe