[quote=Darkmatter] Just the kind I like.If you want we could work something out to make them a part of the lore. Maybe start at what they are now and work back. Like why are they so nonchalant and wise? Maybe they were the first creatures created from the sand and see themselves above all others? [/quote] Part of my idea is that the majority of them aren't particularly wise. They may think themselves to be, but they're mostly petulant and childish, content to laze about on their hordes, threaten lesser creatures into servitude, and throw destructive tantrums when things don't go their way. Part of it is dependent on how magic will fit into the setting, but I have a "two sides to the story" idea for the dragons' origins. The "mortal" legend (ie, the one you wrote up above) could have them as the first predators the gods shaped, born to cull the herd. However, they were made too aggressive, and bit at the hands and feet of the gods. The divine ichor they tasted gave them their intelligence and affinity with magic. Seeing this as an incredible mistake, the gods took careful effort to make the rest of their creations more even-tempered. Then, the draconic interpretation goes something like this. Dragons were originally the gods' divine servitors, particularly those of Solaris (who perhaps goes by another name in the dragon language), and knew themselves as the Children of the Sun. They were angelic creatures, and the only beings aside from the gods that knew the secret of magic. However, following a mortal stealing the secret from the realm of the gods, they were challenged by the mortal mages to see who would be better fit to serve at the gods' sides through a show of magic. The mortals created fire as a likeness to Solaris. The dragons, seeking to do better, each created a great orb of divine fire in Neyav, and they are today known as stars. However, Solaris only took notice of the dragons' efforts (as the mortals' fire was too below his vision to notice) and was enraged at their attempt to "replace" him, and so cast them out of Neyav, binding them to physical bodies in Enduwin. Just some rough ideas, here. If you'd like to continue this, maybe we could take the discussion to a private conversation; I wouldn't want to clog up your Interest Check.