[quote=Omega] This is largely unsubstaniated yet depending on your source hence my previous statements. Stories vary from 1-2 Ukrainians dead with 1-8 injured, 1-2 Russians dead with 1-3 injured, and highly inconclusive numbers on defectorsFor those who may not realize it yet my goal here is to relay information as I find it from various sources. If a source is suspect I may state it here as a claim or not at all depending on severity and if other sources state the same thing. I am avoiding primary US, UK, and Russian sources such a CNN, BBC, or ITAR except for when looking for reasons behind statements rather than the statements themselves. [/quote] Hence the question....what's the source for that particular statement?